German law somewhat bizarrely distinguishes between OC (pepper) spays intended for use against animals and sprays intended for use against humans. During the 1980s and earlier, wasp spray was incredibly effective. I wish you all luck and joy for years to come!! Megan, Assault is a very rear crime in most of Western Europe, so much so that it is likely to make the front page of the newspapers on a slow day. Cheers! As the six o'clock news starts I call a taxi and start gnawing on a sandwich while fishing out a hunk of luggage. is also authorized after approval by the Minister of the Interior. You may find it very helpful to peruse THIS SECTION of the Graffiti Wall or THIS WEBSITE. Yes, pepper spray should be legal for self-defence use in the UK. Pepper spray should definitely be legal in the UK with all these knife attacks, I would like to be able to carry at least pepper spray but even better would be a SW .44 pistol and a .32 ankle holster. Rape,murder and crime thats all they bring send them back. In America it seems rather to be science.Johan Huizinga (18721945), Students For A Democratic Society (2006 Organization). Product canisters cannot exceed 2.5 fluid oz. Cans that are not labelled as animal repellents or have a longer span fall under the Weapons Act and are prohibited. People checking tickets on metros in the city for example, don't usually carry fire arms, but they may carry a billy club. In Switzerland, Germany and Portugal, pepper spray is allowed with a license. It's the only way self defense makes any sense. IS PEPPER SPRAY LEGAL IN NY? The following is all you need to know about the legality regarding pepper spray in New York City. Dagmar Breitenbach. Pepper Spray is legal in all 50 states, however a number of cities and states have pepper spray laws & restrictions on sizes, strengths, and the way your purchase them, etc.. Just don't givr them any attention, period. Laws can be odd things. You are going to leave your jewelry at home. The European Union does not regulate pepper spray, leaving member countries free to regulate it themselves. So I would say yes to the British, to be allowed to use pepper spray under the controlled license in a secret position to fend off potential murderers. I've lived in Europe all my life and don't know nor have I heard of anyone who has been mugged - is not at all common. Regarding crime: Petty crime such as pickpocketing, your falling for scams, eg., "Do you speak English?" More than that is only allowed if earlier tries to escape have failed or there simply is no way of escaping. In addition to the TSA restrictions for flights, it's illegal in many countries in Europe. Taking Pepper Spray to Europe IS NOT a good idea! So you can't mace a drunk just because you feel insecure in his presence. A pepper spray will cost anywhere between $20 to $50 depending on its size but is only legal to . (Not that other countries don't have different, more stupid ideas about self defense.). Me personally been chased 2 times once for my dog by a black tall guy and 2nd time for my ebike in the park. In the Czech Republic, Spain, Austria, Poland, Russia, possession is legal for most civilians. It doesn't require specialized training or holsters. No. It was pretty common for young women to carry it for self-protection. Yes. Keep in mind that what is legal in one country might be illegal in another. I carry home made pepper spray. In Lithuania any knife attack was stopped by pepper spray. If you can't use pepper spray, then perhaps you can carry a can of deodorant in your bag and use that? California: Pepper sprays and gels cannot be sold to minors. Travel Smart not Scared. Demand for pepper spray and blank-firing guns has surged in Germany, . We are not liable for any HIPAA violations. You may carry such sprays openly or concealed without the need for any concealed weapons permit or other special permission. Pepper spray has been linked to positional suffocation of people in police custody. Anyone wishing to carry or . I don't want to get raped or killed. Some guy attacks you. If you are going to encounter crime then it will be either a pickpocket or a purse snatch and pepper spray will be useless in both cases. You can defend yourself with whatever means necessary to fend off an attacker, however you can't keep attacking someone who is no longer a threat. At least pepper spray should be allowed for women if not for man to carry last month 2 women been killed with knife in the park here near Wembley, London by 18 pakistani walking the opposite side of the city to look for a victim in the dark. The most notable example of this is Washington State, where it is legal for 14-year-olds to possess pepper spray so long as they have permission from their parent or guardian. Should I even consider taking something like that with me? Scan this QR code to download the app now. If you poled all the people who write into this site, I would think you would be Very Pleasantly Surprised to hear how Few Problems have been had. Legality of Pepper Spray. When I was a student in Austria wayyyy back in the late 1970's, my host family was convinced that Chicago was full of gangsters with tommy guns, just like they had seen on TV. By the time the sports segment starts I've packed, cleaned up the kitchen mess, and walked out to the road. It doesn't matter when it's truly self-defense. I was never trying to start a riot or cause any harm. The invisible UV marker dye helps identify an attacker, even if they try to wash it off. In self defence you shoot the guy. If they do, I'm heading to europe to squish in some hiking before she gets back - - I'm not sure exactly where I'll go. The only people who can carry these are law enforcement and the military. Switzerland: It is classified as a self-defense device (not a weapon) and can be worn by anyone after registering as a user of such sprays. So i would say yes to Brits to be allowed to use pepper sprays under the controlled license in concealed position, to fight off potential killer. The Police cannot keep everyone safe from assault, therefore every law abiding UK citizen has the right and duty to provide protection for him/herself and their loved ones. Cheers! Possession is illegal for anyone other than police officers, police officers (auxiliary police), security guards of public transport companies and customs officers to carry a paprika spray. With a heavy emphasis on defense. Crazy Somalians? In Hungary it is FREE TO OWN any kind of tear gas/irritant spray. I think everything that is harming towards other persons is illegal in Germany. France: It is legal for anyone over the age of 18 to buy pepper spray from a military armory or surplus business. I live in NRW, if that makes a difference. Then Holland or Germany, at least the western part. So I have been reading and being amazed at all of Megan's posts but the pepper spray one is the last straw. Use against humans is legal. So - basically - as long as you say after an attack that you have this because of your fear of animals, then you carried pepper spray legally and also used it in a legal way. Panama is correct. The same goes for swords, which are also illegal to carry in Japan without a special permit. Personally, I prefer sulphuric acid in the face. It is allowed in a few countries, but must conform to a specific formulation / strength, which again could vary by . Just don't experiment with it in an enclosed space. Police carry OC sprays of higher concentration. You have really made this easier. (The Supreme Court is considering whether to hear a case about one of the remaining stun gun bans; see this . There has been a spate of attempted break-ins recently in the next two streets, I'm the only unfortunate one to actually come face to face with somebody though. If you get mugged, you'll have to weigh the risk of getting done for using it against what will happen if you don't. Mace Brand pepper spray is created with OC, Oleoresin capsicum. In Germany, the only allowed pepper spray is for the defense against animals. Additionally, any gas, powder, or liquid spray capable of hurting or immobilizing someone is prohibited. However, you may be able to pack . Pepper spray is almost completely banned in the UK. In general, if someone is so drunk that they are more of a danger to themselves than to anyone else, you have to first avoid. It's not forbidden to sell it, but it must be written on the outside that it's for pets only. Sticking shaving foam or toothpaste on a thief simply won`t cut it, but it would be normal to think that a criminal would think twice about the possibility that he could end up with a face full of clubs. However, some states have regulations on the type, strength, and size of the spray. Responsibilidad en Propiedades Pblicas y Privadas, instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. But you will need to prove you were acting in necessary self-defense. I guess you could say that I am a real young person who's just starting out, and I never had any guidance on major events such as this. Possession, carrying and use by ordinary citizens is prohibited under section 5 (1) (b) of the Firearms Act 1968. Screw the police. Police officers, prison officers, and military have pepper spray possession licences. Such sprays are not legally considered as weapons. I have had a BIG problem with stalkers lately. I never thought of such a thing. Something about this just doesn't kinda read quite right? In France trade is license-free and ownership is legal for those over 18 but carry can be punished with a fine depending from the quantity and concentration. Thanks everyone. If you are caught with pepper spray or import it, you will face arrest and a subsequent criminal record. By checking this box you hereby agree to hold Client Name, including its doctors and affiliates, harmless from any hacking or any other unauthorized use of your personal information by outside parties. First of all, normal shops sell it. This is against the law in Japan, as pocket knives are regarded as weapons. Pepper spray products come in various sizes including hand-held containers intended to be sprayed at a single person or animal (e.g., bear spray) as well as canisters that can be thrown or shot into an area, such as those used by law enforcement . Plan the trip, don't hesitate on going out of fear. Pepper spray handguns can be bought and carried without any licence by anyone over 18. In Switzerland, Germany and Portugal, pepper spray is allowed with a license. This tool shall not be used to threaten, coerce, or harm another individual or animal unless the same is attempted on you. 12. You should be ashamed that your heart is so black. Therefore, manufacturing, selling, or using goods comparable to pepper spray is a criminal offence according to Canada self-defence laws. It is illegal to use animal pepper sprays on humans. When I visited Paris in 1998 I saw pepper spray and collapsing billy clubs for sale at a surplus store. Wear a moneybelt if it gives more confidence/reassurance. However if you use it in an emergency situation then you can always claim that it was being carried for use against dogs. Citizens are . There is a lot of discussion about the actual cause of death in these cases. IF (if!!!!!!) Its is the criminal problem that causing problems for who its need to be used. By Jim Dwyer. Meanwhile, I'm working on the March joint trip - - the 'work' consists of trying to find a four-wheel drive vehicle with two spares, otherwise we'll figure it out as we go along. However, even in countries where pepper spray may be legal with a license, the use of it against any person generally constitutes assault in the EU. In Germany NO licence required for Peppersprays (pfefferspray) IF there is a TIERABWHERGERAT (defense against animals) label on them. Copyright 2018 TexMeroe All Rights Reserved. Typically, it is legal to carry pepper spray in public. However, there is no restriction for pepper gas pistol cartridges. Pepper Sprays are legal in Germany but require a "kleiner Waffenschein". You really have been so sweet to me. Thats pretty much correct, its sold as Tierabwehrspray, although I dont know whether DM stocks it. Self-service is not permitted and the customer must be informed of safe storage, use and disposal. In Spain, approved pepper spray made with 5% CS is available to anyone older than 18 years.OC pepper spray was recently adopted for some civilian use (e.g., one of 22 grams, with no registration DGSP-07-22-SDP, is approved by the Ministry of Health and Consumption). This project has received funding from the European Unions Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme under grant agreement No 743420. I'm sitting here dorking around on the computer waiting for a couple of things to get taken care of. Whether such a spray is necessary depends on where you live, but if it gives you peace of mind go for the animal repellant. Of the hopes that dazzled the last twenty years that some political movement might tend to the betterment of the human lot, little remains above ground but the tattered slogans of the past.John Dos Passos (18961970), In Europe art has to a large degree taken the place of religion. Your email address will not be published. All this because when you see such high level cases/chilling stories of even police officers on either side of it abducting, raping & killing women to women police officers being attacked & murdered all alone in rural areas like in Kent, over here in the UK of recent times along with all the other cases that could have been prevented if they had a legal NFT tracked licenced & government approved self defence pepper spray for extreme measures in extreme situations. The Alberta government is asking Ottawa to amend the Criminal Code to allow people to carry pepper spray for self-defence. In Germany, they are about the only people allowed to carry it. I was recently a bit shaken up by a rather strange (but ultimately harmless) person on the tube and asked a policeman I know in the UK what he would recommend, as pepper spray is illegal there whatever the intended use. According to The Reeves Law Group, pepper spray is legal in countries such as Italy, Spain, France, Russia and others. He advised getting one of the new personal attack alarms that not only attract attention by making a noise but also emit UV-marking and foul smelling liquid. Are you serious. Defend themselves, stabbing crime increases crazily. For (proven) self defense any necessary measure is legal. It is illegal for civilians to carry pepper spray on public airplanes. I will stop posting from now on and just go with the flow. Edit 2: For clarification: These animal sprays need to be labled as such not to require a type of arms license. In Italy OC (pepper spray) is considered a self-defense weapon and it is legal to own it when the active principle is less than 10%. Same with (young) children and teens, unless of course the avoidance would be an immanent threat to your health and wellbeing (like - even children and dead-drunk people are dangerouse with a knife). What is pepper spray? Sprays of greenhouse-relevant blowing agents such as R134a (1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane) are prohibited. [29] It is a federal offence to carry or send pepper spray on board a commercial aircraft or to possess it beyond the security metal detectors at the airport []. You can use it against any animal for any reason. I believe you can get it at the DM drugstore. Quit worrying about the junk and concentrate on what you want to see. It depends Before you get a criminal charge in a police stop please check the following. Even those that would be illegal in any other case. This topic has been automatically closed due to a period of inactivity. You are going to keep your passport, credit cards and money safe in a Money Belt. It sounded like a good idea to bring it with me, but I guess not. Otherwise youre up in court on a few charges. There isn't even an age limit. Megan, I believe you should ask questions in planning your trip and that afterwards undertake to go on that trip. I wish I could carry at least pepper spray, but even better would be a SW .44 pistol and an ankle case .32 With all the kidnappings, rapes and murders of recent times and the threat, with hardly any really solid defense against it, I think it`s quite reasonable for civilians (especially women), have the option to apply for a license and purchase one directly from selected governments with non-fungible token (NFT) companies following them, so that, if stopped, the police can trace the pepper spray directly back to the original buyer to see if A. pepper spray is legal or a spray purchased illegally, that the person holding it is the officially authorized owner and that his licence is up to date C. the incident in which it is used and others in which they have used pepper spray to defend themselves in the past is recorded and tracked on the blockchain on the NFT. Pennsylvania Pepper Spray Laws. In the United Kingdom too, the rights of the aggressor are placed above the rights of the victim. If it happens that you are in a justified situation of self-defence, you are allowed to use all items you carry with you to defend yourself without fear of prosecution, even the pepper spray you only intended to use to defend yourself against animals. I've even had guys hanging around outside my house. What ever you do, make sure you're in danger, not just someone you feel may be about to attack you. Mace Brand has a variety of safety products that include defense sprays, and more. It could pose a significant risk if it ends up accidentally getting sprayed. Europe has to protect itself against violent muslims and, if incapacitant agents work, OK. You grab your passport, check your wallet, toss somee clothes in something and leave. I thought that if someone was trying to rob me, then I could spray them and get away. Yes. B example if someone has been the victim of criminal harassment or if there is a concrete threat of attack by an ex-partner or family member. You are responsible for knowledge of and compliance with all Federal, State or local laws regarding the possession and transportation of firearms. The use against people is legal. Free to carry, too. Nopeagainst the TSA rules and also illegal in many countries. It is also accepted (technically illegal, but the police don't care) that women or vulnerable people may carry one to protect against rape or other aggression. Fact or Fiction: Owning Pepper Spray Is ILLEGAL in Most of Europe? You can carry pepper spray with you to use against animals. For example there are versions containing chemicals illegal in germany because they are newer than the animal protection laws preventing animal tests needed for approval On the other hand pepper sprays for use against humans have clear regulations regarding the used chemicals (no permanent damage) and the sprayer (limited range and limited time/amount of chemicals delivered with a single use) to be approved. For the purchase of such weapons, the firearms purchase permit and the gun carrier`s permit are required. Therefore actual pepper spray is designed to cause the attacker harm: this is considered illegal in the UK. Pepper sprays can be owned and worn by adults without registration or authorization. Pepper sprays are technically legal in Malaysia, but only when they are used for self-defence. Pepper spray is almost completely banned in the UK. Only likelihood of it is much smaller outside of the USA. Some American jurisdictions used to ban pepper sprays, and several still ban stun guns. [21] As a result of these studies and deaths, many law enforcement agencies have decided to include policies and training to prevent deaths in positions. In Switzerland, pepper sprays are classified as a self-defence device (not a weapon) and can be carried by anyone. of agent. I think Megan is a serious poster. Generally as an Alternative UK Legal Pepper Spray for self defence this product ticks all the boxes and is something to consider for all the family, especially . [deleted] 10 yr. ago Since German laws put severe restrictions on the sale of firearms for private use, demand has risen for freely-available . Pepper spray is completely legal to purchase in Mexico, and it can be found at large businesses and even in pharmacies. From a woman who has travelled solo.Your best "weapon" is common sense. She had a pre-booked trip, but hadn't packed. You don't need a "Kleiner Waffenschein" for carrying pepper sprays. The draconian laws in the UK need to be changed, why don`t you allow people to carry an authorized license, perhaps similar to a shotgun license, where you take an 18-year (one-day) course that allows you to wear a non-lethal pepper spray for self-defense? To carry on school property, the user must have permission and be at least 21 years old. Illegal on airplanes and in most countries. The only acceptable and legal use of pepper spray is for self-defense, which means when you or another person's life is in danger. Pepper spray is legal with some restrictions. Sprays intended for use against animals like the ones the postal workers carry aren't -- legally -- weapons at all but tools, and can therefore be owned and carried by anybody. My wife picked me up and we went to brunch on the way home. Its ownership, carry and use by common citizens is banned under Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968. According to USAG Bavaria's German Polizei Liaison, Gerhard Maenner, animal-repellent pepper spray is not considered a weapon in Germany and anyone over 18 is authorized to carry it. CS sprays bearing a test mark of the MPA may be owned and carried by anyone over the age of 14. Example: You illicitly own a handgun. As I said in my other post, I used to carry pepper spray myself. It is obviously considered not to be a safe area to be in and this would be a warning to others. In Hungary, pepper spray is reserved for law enforcement (including civilian members of the auxiliary police); civilians may carry canisters filled with maximum 20 grams of any other lachrymatory agent. In Romania, pepper spray is banned on sportive and cultural events, public transportation and entertainment locations (according to Penal Code 2012, art 372, (1), c). In addition to the TSA restrictions for flights, it's illegal in many countries in Europe. If they misuse the spray it is taken from them & their licence is suspended or taken away from them completely just like a shot gun licence. 1924), The people of Western Europe are facing this summer a series of tragic dilemmas. Pepper Spray Not Allowed in Carry-on Bags. However, the process of obtaining a license in some countries can be extremely strict. It's easy! Would that not be tie ideal outcome from an attack irrespective weather or not you are made or female? One place that pepper spray is not allowed is commercial airlines. Just go get the police. Hope that's what you meant. This is completely false. In germany you are allowed to carry pepper spray as a defense against animals, the can should be marked with "Tierabwehr" or "Spray gegen tiere" if it has it not, its illegal! It is actually part of their war on the West Jihad by rape.. Lots of women European, American, Asian, Austrailian travel on their own in Europe, solo and in pairs. This spray contains 35 bursts for protection against multiple threats and has a long 12-foot (4-meter) range for protection at a safer distance. Much more likely somebody would try to rob you here in US than in Europe. There must be demand for these items; otherwise the stores would not waste valuable shelf space on them.