0000057372 00000 n I fell in love with this little rimfire the moment I brought it to my shoulder and dry-fired the 6-ounce trigger. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hotjar sets this cookie to identify a new users first session. I usually shoot around MOA from this location. ovc {0H zPT%O}'.^ MZ1"{t#&Vs Took it to THREE separate gun stores around town and none of their rifle accept it. It is contoured for a lightweight profile and chambered with the 22 lr. The occurrence of POI shift would roughly correspond to the length of time between strings. But I could be wrong. 0000013007 00000 n Look up on this very site (300 ultra mag ABS barrel review) Maybe a one time thing maybe not? That being said, I see that a lot of people are commenting on the CS of Christensen Arms, good or bad this concerns me that they even have to call CS in the first place. Christensen Arms Carbon Fiber Rem 700 Short Chambered Barrel, 300 Win Mag 26" 1:10 Twist. If I could sell this monstrosity and buy an MPA, or hell even another budget ass plastic ass Savage (I <3 my savage, no offense to you) Id do it in an instant. I fired first 10, rolled over to spotting scope and he fired last 10 right after. I am an unabashed fan of the Fix, and the MPR is Fix'ish, while being a little warmer to the touch for cold weather hunting. The measured weight is 708.4 grams for the barrel and 136.7 grams for the break gas block assembly totaling 844.11 grams. It's heat soak Like all these reports of heat issues with CA barrels are completely true. Knowing I had ejection problems and accuracy issues that eventually ended up with the rifle being returned. I own 2 Christensen Rifles. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Thanks for any info. That is my experience shooting this rifle. When it comes to long-range hunting rifles, I get asked two questions more than any others. The button-rifled, hand-lapped barrels on these rifles feature a match chamber, 1/2x28 threads on the muzzle and come with a recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel . These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Notice how the barrel never gets hot when when shooting one? BadRock is owned by Defiance Machine, the foremost maker of precision-rifle actions, and uses a Defiance action. 0000003863 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am going to give it one more shot at the range with myself and another shooter from a solid rest. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. I just purchased an MPR in 300prc I have put about 100 rounds through this rifle and I can say it is a flat out tack driver, I love the folding stock makes it easy to pack, I put a sig sauer scope on it, also a carbon fiber bipod which matches up nicely with the barrel. The bottom metal allows the rifle to utilize AICS magazines. Daniel Defense Delta 5. Christensen Arms Carbon Fiber Wrapped MSR Barrel, 6.5 Creedmoor 24" 1:8, Rifle Length Gas System. I see nothing beneficial from getting a barrel scorching hot. Its always frustrating when youre having issues with a rifle. I should have saved the targets but I was so pissed I didn't think about grabbing them. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. Hopefully you find a easy fix or they take care of the problem because the Christiansen rifles I've seen and handled definitely have the look and feel of quality. Many of you have asked how is the Christensen doing. The Pro Hunter is a near-perfect expression of the modern long-range hunting rifle. 0000018344 00000 n . I can wait to get it sighted in. You "notices" were not helpful.I'm grateful I have the item, I love the product, I tell ALL my friends how much I love the the product - but - your notification system needs HELP, lots of Help. Every one should own at least one Christensen rifle. good luck with yours. My CTR same thing. Love the light weight. There barrels actually insulate and trap heat in, (that's what carbon fiber does) dispite what there ads claim. Barrel is in excellent condition with good bore and rifling. Sent it back to CA and took nearly a month and 12 emails to get it back. I went from defending Christensen Arms, to urging people to never buy one of these rifles. 198 customer reviews of Christensen Arms. All but a few shot extremely well. We take them on trade all the time for our custom rifles. I'm a NRA instructor and have shot quite a few rifles. This continued for TWO HOURS with different lengths of time to cool the barrel, putting up fresh targets, readjusting my rear bag (at one point I started questioning my sanity and if I even knew how to shoot), and trying every thing I could think of. They seemed like good people over there to deal with I'm sure their not going to screw you over, I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. .300 Ultra Mag., reloads. Hotjar sets this cookie to know whether a user is included in the data sampling defined by the site's daily session limit. Caliber. I have a few factory rifles that will walk the POI as the shot count goes up, which really isn't that unusual, i's still minute of deer accuracy. Have cycled ammo in magazine through the rifle with no issues. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. I have been saving up for two years to purchaseone of your firearms. 0000054724 00000 n The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". One of the best Gunsmith, Consumer Services business at 550 Cemetery Rd, Gunnison UT, 84634 United States. Rude customer service and barrel deficiencies. It is chambered in .243 Win., .270 Win., .308 Win., .30/06, 7mm Rem. This cookie is set by Google Analytics and is used to distinguish users and sessions. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. It should not be walking like that. Christensen Arms Ranger 22 .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10 Rds 801-12002-00; Item Description; 100% New In The Box. With a price tag under $700, this Mauser is one of the most accurate deer rifles youll find for the money. G endstream endobj 178 0 obj <>stream This is due to outside of the barrel sleeves not being concentric with the bore. They dont build rifles like they used to. I was debating on a .338 Lapua (Savage, Christensen Arms, MPA, Sako, and custom build). Just to comment on the American Gunner, I've surprisingly good results with it on both my CTR and my TAC A1. Great rifles shoot all kinds of ammo well. I have a 300 RUM i bought a few years ago (before the ridge line introduction), and it shoots well and consistent out to 1000 yards. I have more direct experience with Christensen (used to work for a dealer), but a little bit of info on Bergara. No offense but your CTR groups are far from bugholes or consistent either. For more information, please see our We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Code: 321-00005-00. The issues with Christensen is well documented, but those are primarily with their carbon fiber barrels (ridgeline models). The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. My overall was longer then my 3.75 mag. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Holy shit another one of these. 0000638426 00000 n Thanks all for the info! Milhous is from Alaska and grew up shooting long range as well as hunting. Many people may have good experience with CA but it isn't worth the risk of getting one of these lemons. If weight isn't an issue then I'd personally go with an HMR Pro if you want a chassis style rig or the approach if you want a traditional stock. The result of all it is better accuracy. Weve had countless ca rifles. If so I really have to lean towards it being the shooter warming up plus the shitty grip. I would buy another. Not Yet Rated. Any thoughts on a good place to start looking for used glass? Obviously guns have a POI shift but it should be at least be repeatable or make some sense. I own several nice firearms and the quality of this Christensen is heads and shoulders above any of my other guns. We can take a clue from the world of target shooting. Chambered in 6mm Creedmoor, it has the ability to hit targets a long way off. So dont be surprised to see these cartridges offered in a growing number of production rifles. The FFT spotter style stock weighs in starting at 5.5 pounds making it ideal on those long hikes up the mountain. when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which site. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. I was told that the action was re-Ceracoated and the bottom plate was replaced. a burden to carry all day even if you dont get to take a shot. First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. Check it out on their website. !!!! This doesnt look like a traditional hunting rifle, but dont let that fool you. Good rifles will print some loads very well. i've had problems with my boys but that issue was the feed ramp. Tried hornady precision 143 eldx and 2 other brands of ammo. Bolt was stiff and needed a rubber hammer to open after firing. This includes gear reviews, features on technical innovations, stories on shooting techniques and general hunting coverage with the occasional fishing story thrown into the mix. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Its not slowly unscrewing is it? Shoot at 100y? 0000012285 00000 n Wr 8EJ }e6{,P62,G5eq:kuo\*jOe Please see pictures for more details. */AbaC|_%#Z AEh"{5XE)-Tww*"-KQC8Nf'{v;lkD4&M :%FFd34vt@m4qN\OWe ** @R81fO4zYyjF6F0O?UUxVeCD@4j 4L:uQatV Zppp>\]1 G endstream endobj 176 0 obj <>stream So, the answer is a Tikka in a Bravo. Hotjar sets this cookie to know whether a user is included in the data sampling defined by the site's pageview limit. Can't get the gun to shoot groups.At 50 yards I get a 1 inch group. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It goes against our guidelines to offer incentives for reviews. and they took care of that. Its probably magic that they did nothing and it improved so much but I really dont care. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. In gusty 15mph wind! Im highly educated and I know when I don't know what Im doing. . MIj.kT+-"(.&6xlBeZE;G\_=+!? call john mogle . . Hunting whitetail or elk? Can't wait to shoot it. If you are using a screen reader and are having problems using this website, please call 1-800-227-7776 for assistance. They have won precision gun of the year. 0000008307 00000 n Cookie set to track when someone clicks through a Klaviyo email to a website. My MPR shot unimpressive groups with factory ammo as well, but not quite as bad as those. Inspired by decades of experience with carbon fiber and other advanced aerospace materials, Christensen Arms manufactures highly accurate and lightweight firearms that stand in a class of their own. That's why they only last 200 rounds. Weight is not a deal breaker for me. Plenty of the CTR groups are walking all over too but not as bad as the 25 round group from the MPR. $350.00 + $24.00 shipping. The thumbhole stock fits like a custom suit. Real world testing is what you will get here. I would also say that you should make sure he adjusts the LOP and cheek to his needs. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. At this point I'm going to email christensen. I have an older Christensen Arms rifle. I would regularly receive notices that the item I wanted was available - but when I attempted to purchase the item - the same day - it was "out of stock". Is my understanding correct that the first shots you fired in this range session was the 25 round group where the rifle was walking while warming up? Its been 2 weeks now and no return answer since they received it. After 5 strings the groups were so open I had trouble identifying which shot was from which string on the 4 quadrants of my ST-4. Am a bit disappointed. Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. The Ranger 22 comes with a zero m.o.a. Theres no such thing as an inaccurate Anschutzthe company makes some of the most accurate rifles in the worldso I wasnt surprised when it clustered bullets in ragged little holes on target. Christensen Arms 700 338 Lapua 26" Factory Carbon Rifle Barrel For Remington 700. They said they changed out the barrel for a new one. $799.99. 2023 Trustpilot, Inc. All rights reserved. 2023 Christensen Arms. When shooting matches I can economize by using the Am Gunner ammo for targets inside 500 and I do it with my ballistic app set for the Match ammo. Would not hesitate to buy one. You won't find many horror stories here! This review is the only one I have seen, and it seems that maybe CA has not gotten their carbon barrel tech quite to where they thought it was. It is magnificent and dead on! John B. I can shoot a Tac A1 half to 3/4 moa from a bag and atlas. I emailed eurooptic and was told basically that I was smoking the barrel and that it's not designed for any high volume of fire, and that anything more than 5 rounds at a time is abusing it. You literally gave us NOTHING to go off of. Thanks again. Would I normally shoot 20 rounds of anything back to back like that? The contour is my favorite and I have had great accuracy with it this last year. Have you ever thought of having someone else shoot both rifles to eliminate the shooters skill-set variable? I just purchased my first Christensen Arms Firearm. 0000024402 00000 n People who write reviews have ownership to edit or delete them at any time, and theyll be displayed as long as an account is active. It stores a true/false value, indicating whether it was the first time Hotjar saw this user. Send us a message and one of our reps will get back to you. My issues with Christensen Arms barrel problems. Be aware that the weight and mass are still there in this Christensen AR-15 Carbon Fiber Barrel. Google Analytics sets this cookie to inhibit request rate. Ya I had heard about the problems with the ridgelines, but I wasn't sure if they were carrying over to the other rifles or not cause there was some chatter about the Mesa's as well Sep 12, 2022 #4 Big Iron FNG Joined Who makes the barrels for them, or are they built completely inhouse? Now I was also shooting multiple different ammos for the other stuff in post 2. So whats next? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Thanks for the reply. It took months and months of saving to be able to purchase this rifle. Uf5v'=$(@6X71p)i V(-^AQA-?sfg2 0.`dAdcEA? nAy0F10n # ZanF ' ), endstream endobj 21 0 obj <> endobj 22 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 23 0 obj <> endobj 24 0 obj <> endobj 25 0 obj <> endobj 26 0 obj <> endobj 27 0 obj <> endobj 28 0 obj [/ICCBased 48 0 R] endobj 29 0 obj <> endobj 30 0 obj <> endobj 31 0 obj <> endobj 32 0 obj <>stream Am I missing something here? A 416R stainless steel-barreled MRP will tip the scales between 8.4 and 9.6 pounds. We also ensure all reviews are published without moderation. I was interested in getting one in the new 7mm PRC. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/source-for-bergara-extractor.6914434/, seriously, there wasn't even 1/8" of clearance, One Piece vs Two Piece (Removable Forend) Chassis. The latest entrant in this field is the 6 GT, the brainchild of rifle builder George Gardner and Tom Jacobs, maker of Vaportrail bullets, and a world-class benchrest shooter. zbO+ 1q5->"~|PP326|cz`p7pha5? These representatives will help ease the extensive licensing and shipping complications associated with purchasing products from our U.S. website. If it were an all steel barrel it could be stress relieved by 300 Below or a similar outfit. 0000010303 00000 n VXS|+]7 The ones that didnt Were promptly taken care of. Ive contact all three companies involved and to make a long story short . Now they only wrap their barrels. Might be a foolish question but is the barrel torqued on well? The large sample data we have all combined with CA carbon barrels is very large. Interesting. How durable are carbon fiber wrapped barrels? "++CHRISTENSEN ARMS 14 6.5 PRC" SKU: 3665153. . The Traverse weighs in starting at 7.3 pounds and is backed by the Christensen Arms Sub-MOA Guarantee. They made me feel a bit foolish for not knowing that there was an option for that, a couple menus deeper. Easy Day. No point in Christensen if weight is not a factor. My experience with customer service is first in class. Most chamberings use a 22-inch, free-floated barrel (also potentially a 20", 24" or 26" barrel length depending on the caliber) that's button rifled. I randomly attempted to purchase the item and I got it.Thank You. I'm wondering if their carbon fiber barreling is just a gimmick. Proof Research 338 Whisper Carbon Fiber Barrel - 1:9.4. Every single blank shot under .5 moa with no issues. I shoot maybe 10 rounds out of my steel barrel and then let it cool. Received the wrong muzzle brake, then was told that since my rifle is pre 2012, Christensen doesnt make those muzzle brakes anymore!!! CA offers a very expensive detachable plate, well worth the money. After talking for 10 minutes the rep begrudgingly offered me to send in my rifle under warranty but I was so pissed I said I'd call him back if/when I decide to do so. Do I need to break in my barrel? The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site. I have called but can never get a person to talk to. I proceeded to take it to my local indoor range to zero the rifle and chrono loads before taking it out to my outdoor thousand. Competing on PRS matches? You must log in or register to reply here. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? Its no coincidence that the most accurate rifles Ive tested over the years are chambered in the hottest new roundsthe 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, and, more recently, the 6.5 PRC. How are your barrels rifled? I am by no means bashing, I personally have no experience with them. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. I was THRILLED to pick up this rifle and told everyone this was to be my lifetime precision gun. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for christensen 338 lapua barrel carbon at the best online prices at eBay! 3 RANGER 22 STRUCTURE MODEL . Those are the two offerings I have found so far anyway. I have one that will not group consistently at all. I wanted to find out what the opinion is regarding Christensen Arms barrels? Please see my other auctions for more rare, hard to find barrels and scopes!" You must log in or register to reply here. Like I said before Christensen seems like they produce a high quality product and I would expect nothing less from them, this thread in no way would keep me from purchasing anything from them, other than im a little on the fence on there carbon barrels. Barrel: Christensen Arms 18" Free-Floated Tensioned Carbon Fiber, Hand Lapped, Bentz Match Chamber, 1:16" RH Twist, 1/2x28 TPI with Smooth Thread Protector. It's not recoil or anything for me, it's just general compatibility of attachments since I know a bunch of people make items like Arca rails for XLR chassis but hadn't honestly even heard of Mega Orias prior to looking up more details on the Bergara. like no words Obviously certain guns don't run certain pills well, but at a 100 yards, you cant tell me a different grain is going to fix a 10! #r5&vtRN,-}@tN8MQ/lg$vza~E`7J}?7Ul6v97p[4+M2 .c> g`k9ES3pA;Gl`zDmqPe#(I*ea,ZJQf#B Well, I was finally able to get out to the range again with the "Good Ammo" that I had on hand. It has the kind of performance that makes ground squirrels quake in their burrows. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That's why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight, accurate firearm with cutting-edge, aerospace technology that's not a burden to carry all day - even if you don't get to take a shot. Arms rifles has to do with their carbon fiber barrels. Or when you all are purchasing them are you buying blanks and having a gunsmith spin them up for you? HlSK\1Sx$cY, )?$ye);3N: S@968)_17l]rmYrO^":Iy&DxcK3ZX7 UBxsGul4kN^N2tGRtV_0B>IiY4PfHuYxWBD7eA Many have commented get about 500 rounds through it and then come back and tell us how it is going. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Like truly thought something was broken. inches. Full disclosure in case my previous comments came off as me advocating for a Christensen Arms over a Bergara because I stand to benefit from it, I no longer work for a Christensen dealer and have no skin in the game (nor could I help OP score any kind of deal on one). I think that caused them some problems. trailer <<88C0082D589B4BFBBCCF95943FE08D78>]/Prev 729709>> startxref 0 %%EOF 58 0 obj <>stream I can say with absolute certainty the CA barrels are not what they used to be. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Spoke with Christensen today. They have a stellar reputation. I had one built with a Christensen barrel and it consistently shoots in the .3s. Very Pleased !!!! In the meantime I have a TAC A1 I'm trying out in 6.5cm it's a tack driver. .375 H&H MAG. Due to this, I brought in my target to 50 with a fresh target and began again, hoping to get a group closer and figure out what was going on. I'm also shooting from a relatively uncomfortable patch of ground. They are simply the best shooting carbon barrels we have tested to date. Thanks for the replies, and thanks for the welcome. I wish they used krieger, or hart barrels. They are great barrels. But a shift AND spread of 4 -10 inches at 100 yards for a $2,300!!!! 2006 - 2023 BPS Direct, L.L.C. I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. CarbonSix is a good open because I can fine tune my order to my specs while ordering from the others it is buying what they have in stock that suites me the best. I have also ordered probably six 30 cal carbon blanks, a few 6.5's, and a 223 along with a few 338's. Every single blank shot under .5 moa with no issues. I bought a new 28 Nosler in March and the barrel alignment was so bad i couldnt even zero my scope (Tangent Theta 3x15, so not a junker) at 100 yards with its available elevation OR windage. vxLp[Tj>`;3;pb;Bwyhu? But they have all shot really well so take that as you will. Bryan Litz from AB did some extreme testing of carbon barrels for heat related issues and CA was the winner. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. I really like the gun but accuracy is very poor. This has been very helpful for me. Over the years Ive tested dozens of new rifles, putting them all through the same rigorous protocol of shooting multiple 5-shot groups with different types of factory ammo. Hopefully with the introduction of the 7PRC Christensen will begin offering 8 twist 7mm blanks. 0000003569 00000 n 02 BOREBRUSH With the bore guide inserted, run a solvent-soaked patch through the barrel, breach to muzzle, removing it at the muzzle. Thanks for sharing. The carbon-fiber wrapped 26" 416R stainless steel barrel is backed by Christensen Arms with a sub-MOA guarantee. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. Last time I checked, they only offered 9 and 10. 0000057435 00000 n what cal and factory or reloads?? I would recommend Christernsen Firearms to my students if there looking for a light weight and accurate rifle that did not beat you to death. Plus we tested them for stringing when hot at distance and they stayed in group. Find out how we combat fake reviews. Some are high-end rifles costing several thousand dollars, and some are inexpensive enough that you might be tempted to buy two, just because. I cannot speak on behalf of them. Learn more . (excepting firearms, which must ship to FFL). inch shift and a group I can't even measure. On the other hand my match rifles don't shift POI during a 20 round string. The weight is somewhat average/light for a standard, pencil or light profile barrels. I wonder if Christensen would do it. And would be completely back to square one attempting to figure out what the hell was going on. This highly accurate, no . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 0000638363 00000 n I have defended CA's, before I even shot this rifle, in this subreddit. Even if it's hot as hell it should only open up a bit. Purchased bottom metal to replace the existing bottom metal in CA Traverse 300 PRC, was a perfect fit. Thank you so much for this .. exactly what I was looking for .. 0000007024 00000 n 0000003828 00000 n A radial stainless-steel muzzle brake is threaded on the barrel, which has 5/8 .